#include<bits/stdc++.h> using namespace std; string s,s1; int main(){ getline(cin,s); getline(cin,s1); s1 += ' '; int lens=s.size(); int len1 = s1.size(); for(int i=0;i<lens;i++){ if(s[i]>='A'&&s[i]<='Z') s[i] += 32; } for(int i=0;i<len1;i++){ if(s1[i]>='A'&&s1[i]<='Z') s1[i] += 32; } string str=""; int cnt=0,id=-1; for(int i=0;i<len1;i++){ if(s1[i] != ' '){ str = str+s1[i]; } else{ if(str==s){ cnt++; if(id==-1){ id = i-lens; } } str = ""; } } if(cnt>0) cout<<cnt<<" "<<id; else cout<<-1; return 0; }